tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post7612979682572966012..comments2023-10-31T00:44:59.582+10:00Comments on Et Clamor Meus Ad Te Veniat: More Comments on the 40th anniversary of the Novus Ordo MassStephenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17046426349502035242noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-88884391668104142212010-04-06T23:04:55.199+10:002010-04-06T23:04:55.199+10:00I am disappointed Stephen that you did not print m...I am disappointed Stephen that you did not print my comment on Mass facing the People. Seems you may only print comments that wholly agree with you position. Blessings, Fr Ronan.Fr Ronan Kilgannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11206827426728095951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-90345357866399035772010-03-24T11:56:59.374+10:002010-03-24T11:56:59.374+10:00Dear Stephen, I have only ever offered Mass accord...Dear Stephen, I have only ever offered Mass according to the Ordinary Form and tried to do so with reverence and devotion. I eagerly await the new translation of the Missal.<br /><br />Because someone misuses or abuses something does not mean that it is is a 'fundamental flaw in the Novus Ordo Missae' as you claim. By the way after 40 years the term Novus Ordo has been replaced by Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite. (I will leave you to translate it into Latin). I gather the pope would prefer us to use the terms Ordinary and Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite to uphold the unity of the Roman Rite. One Rite two forms. And why do you type Novus Ordo in inverted commas? The impression given is that you are treating it with some disdain. <br /><br />I cannot find anything wrong is saying that Jesus 'presided' at the Last Supper. I think of myself as doing so 'in persona Christi' at Mass. A high theology of the Priesthood indeed. Whatever the arguments about the antiquity of 'ad orientem', which in our churches isn't always in fact 'orientem', 'adversus populi' for me is more evocative of the simplicity of the Last Supper. <br /><br />Sometimes when I see photographs of Solemn High Masses in the Extraordinary Rite (which I never experienced in my parish church growing up) I am tempted to ask 'Is this salvation by haberdashery?' <br /><br />While it is true that it is more possible in the Ordinary Rite for the priest's ego to show, it must also be a temptation for the priest, deacon, subdeacon, Master of Ceremonies etc at a Solemn High Mass - all those vestments and gestures and rubrical actions etc.<br /><br />It is obvious you prefer the Extraordinary Rite. Why the need to disparage the Ordinary Rite? My advice is, just get on with it. As long as the Ordinary Rite is authorised by the Church I will offer it with all the love and devotion and reverence I can muster. I hope the priests and all those involved in offering the Extraordinary Rite will do the same. Comparisons, as they say, are odious.<br /><br />Please give my regards to Fr Jordan. You are very blessed to have such a fine priest as your chaplain.Fr Ronan Kilgannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11206827426728095951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-71726645000524740492009-12-19T19:24:36.082+10:002009-12-19T19:24:36.082+10:00Interesting post. I find that Mass facing the peo...Interesting post. I find that Mass facing the people, contrary to some assertions, makes it harder to participate actively. You feel as though you are an observer watching the priest act out his thing while he's standing there talking to you. Ad Orientiem at least gives a structure whereby we are all praying facing the same direction (East, or symbolic East)and are making our own offering of mind and heart along with the Holy Sacrifice.<br /><br />I don't recall very well the passage in SC on communion under two kinds. However, I do remember that the original intention was to provide it on specific occasions (the newly wed at a nuptial Mass etc) not in general. Now we have laypeople tramping up at communion time to get their chalice and stand around distributing it. When it comes to two kinds the East has the practice down pat much better than us. Intinction would be a better way to go.Summa Theologiaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949182179505070796noreply@blogger.com