tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post853780400728742530..comments2023-10-31T00:44:59.582+10:00Comments on Et Clamor Meus Ad Te Veniat: The Missal of Paul VI - a historical analysisStephenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17046426349502035242noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-36631473860831626492008-01-01T23:12:00.000+10:002008-01-01T23:12:00.000+10:00I think in your situation you can only work with t...I think in your situation you can only work with the authority you have. It would be much easier if they were unambiguously disallowed and the bishop was obedient.Summa Theologiaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949182179505070796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-41370724179399043992008-01-01T22:02:00.000+10:002008-01-01T22:02:00.000+10:00I have been incomfortable with lay ministers ever ...I have been incomfortable with lay ministers ever since I first saw them. As for the sanctuary being the "holy of holies", this has been increasingly difficult to maintain over the years, particularly as there are now deliberate attempts to morph it into the rest of the church. A number of times I have had to tell people that hey are not permittted to be in the sanctuary. The main offenders seem to be older Australian women. There are a number of church renovations around Brisbane which do not have a sanctuary at all - total horizontalism.<BR/><BR/>As for female Altar servers, I agree that I do feel uncomfortable with them playing a highly visible role and sometimes I will deliberately "engineer" the duties to ensure that they are not out there and being prominent. Mainly the issue tends to resolve itself as there are only certain duties that female Altar servers want to do. A roblem with females is that they do tend to cherrypick roles and do not have the flexibility that the guys have.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17046426349502035242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36055309.post-11467930501658735902008-01-01T12:41:00.000+10:002008-01-01T12:41:00.000+10:00I think communion under the species of bread on th...I think communion under the species of bread on the one hand and wine on the other are considered two different matters. That is the impression I obtain from Roman documents. However, whether you need an extraordinary reason to use lay ministers for the wine (which said reason would never exist)is an interesting question. I'm not comfortable with the practice on grounds of the sanctuary being the Holy of Holies, something I think we have totally lost compared with the reverence the Jews had for instance. Even altar servers are vested and located for the most part on the lower rung. Lay ministers walking up onto the sanctuary (and nearly always around the Lamb of God which they are NOT supposed to) does not help in conveying that the sanctuary is holy ground. Not enough consideration has been given, in my opinion to this aspect of the question.<BR/><BR/>As for female altar severs are majority of males is normally only feasible where the former are absent altogether. I agree in the current climate that is a difficult matter. Even one female server creates a discordant note with respect to the male symbolism.Summa Theologiaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02949182179505070796noreply@blogger.com